24V Electrical Concept

24V Electrical Concept

Assumptions

Open [or now closed] Questions

  • Does REC BMS that supports 24V also support Victron? Yes
  • Does Wakespeed 500 support 24V? Yes according to Nation's? Yes according to Nations and Wakespeed manual.
  • Availability of 24V alternator for 2021 Transit: According to a 10-27-2020 discussion with Nations, the only 24V alternator available that is compatible with the 2020 Transit is the 55XP-WS500 serious which is $3299.95. Not verified: Compatibility with 2021 3.5 Ecoboost, Price of 2nd alternator bracket, and whether price includes wakespeed 500. According to a 12-11-2020 email with Adam Nations, they can do a 24V alternator capable of 150A (would like to see power curve) that will fit an Ecoboost. Also if desired, and perhaps as a place holder until the 2nd alternator is installed and integrated, I could run an orton-system that could provide an additional 50A or so off the factory alternator (perhaps with an automatic transfer switch with normal shore power with aux contacts and a thermal based contact to adjust Multiplus current limit when powered in orton-mode).

Benefits

  • MPPT is 3 kg and 4393750 mm^3 and ~$450 for 24V vs 4.5 kg and 6563160 mm^3 and $700 for 12V

  • Alternator line temperature rise will be 1/4 of 12V for equivalent wire.

Other Notes

  • I don't think the latching relay approach is worth the complexity. GigaVac makes contactors in the MX line that have 24V high efficiency coils (GigaVAc MX14,MX64,MX15 - NO, I=400A, Pcoil_48V_listed=2.0W, Pcontact@400A=60W, Rcontact_max=0.375ohm). TYCO has a nice option as well: TYCO makes an attractive option - KILOVAC EV200: Pcoil_24V_listed=1.7W, Pcontact_typ@400A=32W, Rcontact_typ@200A=0.2mOhm.

Similar/Equavalent Wire Comparisons:

12v to 24v Equivalent Voltage Drop % and Equal Loss for the Same Transmitted Power

V=IR. Because I has decreased by 1/2 and Vsource has increased by 2, to achive the same fraction of Vsource/Vdrop, Vdrop must also double. This implies R must increase by a factor of 4.

P = R*I2. I has decreased by a factor of 1/2, thus I2 has decreased by a factor of 1/4. This implies R must increase by a factor of 4.

4/0 becomes 2 AWG

2 AWG becomes 8 AWG

8 AWG becomes 14 AWG

12v to 24v Equivalent Ampacity for Same Power

4/0 becomes 2 AWG

2 AWG becomes 6 AWG

8 AWG becomes 14 AWG